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Dec192014

Die Koelner Bierhalle Seized for Nonpayment of Taxes

Die Koelner Bierhalle (The KBH), the gigantic German beer hall on St. Marks Place just east of Fourth Avenue, has been seized by the NYS Dept. of Taxation and Finance for failure to pay taxes. Many thanks to tipster Chloe for sending in the above photo, of the infamous orange sign in the locked-up doorway. According to the government's online database, there's a lien on the property for more than $23,000.

The beer hall opened in August 2012, and was the largest drinking establishment in the neighborhood. There was a solid selection of German beer and sausages, but the vibe has always been a little off, largely idue to the cold and industrial space, spotty service, and somewhat depressing mood. It never really attracted neither a regular clientele nor the Barclays crowd.

The space was rarely empty but also rarely full (save for the World Cup final, when the line to get in stretched to the corner), but it never appeared to be doing exactly well. I'd be very interested in seeing if it re-opens.

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Reader Comments (32)

Just for the record the space was also full for the 2013 UEFA Champions League final between the German sides Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund.

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered CommenterAlf

S'nice is also closed for good on the corner of 5th ave and 3rd street.

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered CommenterEd

Too bad-it was a nice space and a great alternative to slogging out to Williamsburg for a similar large beer hall experience.

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered Commenterjbob

Jbob,

Threes Brewing Company just opened last week and trust me it's better than anything in Williamsburg. Also Lavender Lake is excellent and there's the biggest beer garden in Brooklyn in south south Slope/Greenwood Heights called Greenwood Park on 7th Avenue. We are hardly lacking for great beer halls around here of which this was NOT one of them. it was an awful space with terrible service.

http://www.ediblebrooklyn.com/2014/12/09/photos-look-inside-threes-brewing-gowanus-brooklyns-latest-brewpub-open-thursday/

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered CommenterRick

I went twice and both times service was really bad, from waiting for ever for service, to bringing the wrong beer, and then never bringing plates of food that had been ordered. When asked about it we were met with eye rolls from wait staff, and a shrug from the manager. I'm not going to miss it.

And Threes Brewing and Greenwood Park, while maybe beer gardens, are not German Beer Halls, so not really an apt comparison.

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered CommenterNever Satisfied

Good call, Threes Brewing and Lavender Lake are great. So is Greenwood Park although very different and better on spring/summer/fall days.
I also never liked this place thought it was like one of those places in Disneyland made to look like a beer hall. Their place in Ft. Greene is much better, but this one never caught on because the space was really odd.

snice closing is no big loss, that's the perfect spot for something better to come in there with the corner and outdoor space. a big lobster/crab shack kind of place would be nice. Or a Toby's Estate Coffee or Blue Bottle. .

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered CommenterTim

Those "German Beer Halls" fill up in Williamsburg with tourists and 25 year olds. It's not really the same market in Park Slope. We have people more interested in craft beers, better service and maybe a beer in a glass instead of a plastic cup. It's not terribly surprising to see places like Threes Brewing and others popping up while these sort of trendy Disney-fied places that may do well in Williamsburg not do as well here. Park Slope is land of the successful creative class and wealthy brownstone officianados, not so much beer guzzling post grads. They mostly stay in 200 Fifth and Mission Dolores. You want the Williamsburg experience (which is no doubt fun on occasion) go to Mission. That's the hot spot to be on any given night in Park Slope.

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered CommenterLisa

I for one love this place and am sad about this news.

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered CommenterLMH

@Rick Heard great things about Threes Brewing and I like Greenwood park but this place had a deep selection of German beers that none of these other places have and was a different kind of set up. There should have been a place for it if run better.

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered Commenterjbob

The reviews online for this place have been pretty bad since day 1. Never really had any interest in the place even though I walk by it all the time. I agree it looks JUST like Disneyworld's version of a "German" Beer hall.

We had neighbors who went and said that the service was really terrible and the place was too loud even though it wasn't half full. Sounded like they cheaped out on the place and didn't invest in insulation or something.

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered CommenterIna

I know it's not the same, Jbob but Bierkraft has a great selection of beers and they've turned the backyard into a nice beer garden. Too cold now, but that's a nice option as well. I think you're right that this place could have been a winner had it been run better. It needed better food, much better service and the space should be broken up into a few different areas like that beer hall in manhattan across from film forum. There also should have been outdoor space included.

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered CommenterIna

I live on Saint Marks near this place - it never had the support of its neighbors. They had constant problems with noise, loitering, trash, and never engaged the folks on the block.

They balked at insulation and air conditioners, and had their doors open very late into the night, music blaring.

I don't think anyone on Saint Marks will weep for the closure.

I would love to see anything in the space BUT a bar. Previously, it was a lumber yard that closed around 6. Wouldn't mind a space that stayed open late, but had the foresight and understanding that their business is sitting on a residential street, not a busy avenue like 4th or 5th.

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered Commentercarmen

It seemed to be a group meet-up for families. Lots of stroller and kids running around. It seemed crowded the two times I wondered in. Snice too - I thought they did a good lunch business.

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered Commentere!

Fish & Sip on Flatbush seems to be gone as well.

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered Commenterdbb

Fish & Sip was highly rated on yelp but I ate there once. They served me instant mashed potatoes. Never again, good riddance.

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered CommenterLike it is

Fish & Sip is becoming a Mexican restaurant named Don Chingon:

http://parkslopestoop.com/blog/business/fish-sip-to-become-new-mexican-restaurant-called-don-chingon

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered CommenterHeather

I think Fish n Sip closing is a real loss to the neighborhood. It was the only place for a casual, reasonably priced fish meal.

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered Commenterfearandloathing

I also live on St. Marks near the beer hall and agree with Carmen. I won't miss this place at all. I gave it two chances, and decided it didn't deserve a third. What an unpleasant vibe, such terrible service, and barely edible food. And noisy! There was always a game projected on a giant screen, blaring commentator blather and commercials, or bad pop music. They were definitely aiming for the Barclay's center crowd. I won't miss their rowdy patrons yelling and puking on the sidewalks on their way out of the place.

Worst of all, when the beer hall applied to expand into the outdoor area next to it they behaved very underhandedly and played tricks to sidestep the strong community opposition. That would have been a noisy nightmare, and it's a good thing the city didn't approve it. Maybe karma does exist after all.

Besides that, the landlord seems pretty awful. Hardly surprising in New York. The building became rat infested for the year between the lumber yard moved out and the beer hall moved in. There were gaps under the doors three inches high where they would go freely in and out. The landlord never did a thing to help.

I hope the next business that opens is good for the neighborhood. The lumber yard was far better. At least it provided goods we could use. If the next place is another eating / drinking establishment I hope it will at least cater to the local community, and serve decent food.

I have nothing against bars -- I patronize them often myself. I was sad when Southpaw closed, for example. But I definitely feel no sorrow here.

December 19, 2024 | Unregistered Commenterbob

More generalizations about who everyone in Park Slope is! Tell me what type of person I am and what business I need!

(Didn't like this place, don't care that it is closing. But love the constant, no reservations, bravado pronouncements of who everyone who lives in Park Slope is and what exact businesses we ALL need.)

December 20, 2024 | Unregistered CommenterHank

Hank: I don't see anything in the comments above that claim to say who anyone is or what we all need. But I'll accept your challenge and guess what type of person you are...

You've lived in Park Slope for 5 years or less. You've experimented with facial hair, but now settle for weekend scruff when you break out the jeans and plaid. You make six figures, and have since before you arrived here. You have one kid, or twins. You bought her a diamond, and wish it were bigger. You're not originally from New York. You usually vote democrat, but liked Bloomberg, and get a little excited by Ron Paul. You think the best thing about the beer hall was your wife liked to go there with the stroller before 5pm, and it was a good place to hang with your buds before the Pearl Jam show. You don't live on the block. You attended a big 10 school. Frat boy. You eat lots of carbs, but you feel no nostalgia for Aunt Suzie's. You'd like a Mini. Your wife does almost all the cooking, except when you break out the grill. You'll leave for the 'burbs by the time the kid goes to elementary school.

Did I come close?

I hope not. Because if so the neighborhood is getting overrun by people like you.

The old timers here are a diverse, open-minded, and welcoming bunch. But walk down 5th avenue these days on a sunny saturday afternoon and it's getting harder and harder not to generalize about the newbies.

And I'm guilty of that today.

December 20, 2024 | Unregistered Commenterbob

Hank, the other possibility of course is you are one of the former owners of the place. If so, let's see if anyone who lives on St. Marks comes to your defense. I, for one, won't miss the piss on the sidewalks. It's never someone from the neighborhood who'd do that.

December 20, 2024 | Unregistered Commenterbob

Hank sounds like another one of these spineless, whiny park slope dads who blow over in a strong breeze.

No one is telling anyone anything, they are voicing opinions on a blog. Take it easy dude and don't get your panties in a twist.

December 21, 2024 | Unregistered CommenterLisa

I feel a real sense of loss now that Fish & Sip AND 'Snice are gone, because there is nothing left in Park Slope that has anything remotely as terrible a name as those two had.

December 21, 2024 | Unregistered CommenterAlf

Hank, those qualities go together? Buying a diamond engagement ring is controversial?

In any case, the Bageltigue on 5th Ave. Will be "under new management" in the new year, or closed.

Why do landlords let properties remain empty for so long? A tax deduction is never as advantageous as profits, so WHY? Why not just shorter leases with renewal options or some other meet-you-halfway device?

December 21, 2024 | Unregistered CommenterSlopeSteven

@slopesteven, regarding bageltique, the current owners ran it into the ground. the previous owner, i think her name was char, ran it much better.

December 21, 2024 | Unregistered Commenterno-permits

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